NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Lawyers for Perry March were back in a Nashville courtroom Thursday afternoon asking for help with his legal troubles.

Judge Steve Dozier denied a motion for a retrial in the theft case.

March said he has no money to pay for his lawyers and needs a public defender to represent him in the case.

March didn't flinch at losing, he just seemed to be working on his next attempt. That's what he's like said attorney Ed Fowlkes.

“I have no idea how an individual who had the sky, the whole sky, has as positive outlook as he has,” Fowlkes said.

Things appear to be going no better in federal court where March is trying to use the Hague Convention to have his kids sent to Mexico to live with their stepmother, Carmen Rojas March.

Judge Aleta Traugher has denied March more library time, more typewriter time, more copy machine time and she gave him a strict deadline of Nov. 13.

The court won't allow him access to the law library, -- or say how much time they are allowing him in the law lib. if they are at all.

Fowlkes said the way March conducts himself reminds him of the old motorcycle repairman sign.

“I charge $50 an hour, $75 if you watch, $100 if you help and $250 an hour if you ever worked on the motorcycle yourself,” he said.

March is due back in court next Thursday to prove that he is too poor to afford an attorney.

The state will put on evidence that he is lying about his financial resources.

Earlier this year, March was convicted in criminal court for stealing from his former law firm.

March is in prison for killing his wife Janet March in March of 1996. Perry March was found guilty of second-degree murder, abuse of a corpse and tampering with evidence in the murder trial.

The law firm that Perry March was convicted of stealing from belonged to Janet March’s father, Lawrence Levine.